He also owes us $700 billion.
I guess none of this concerned him very much at the time.
"Parade of Horribles!!!" New team name??
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Showing posts with label Rummy's legacy. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Rummy's legacy. Show all posts
Wednesday, February 16, 2011
Monday, December 22, 2008
you don't have to get drunk and sit outside in zero degrees for four hours watching the Bears suck to develop numbness in the upper extremity
Early Miscalculations
On the eve of the invasion, as it began to dawn on a few officials that the price for rebuilding Iraq would be vastly greater than they had been told, the degree of miscalculation was illustrated in an encounter between Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, and Jay Garner, a retired lieutenant general who had hastily been named the chief of what would be a short-lived civilian authority called the Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance.
The history records how Mr. Garner presented Mr. Rumsfeld with several rebuilding plans, including one that would include projects across Iraq.
“What do you think that’ll cost?” Mr. Rumsfeld asked of the more expansive plan.
“I think it’s going to cost billions of dollars,” Mr. Garner said.
“My friend,” Mr. Rumsfeld replied, “if you think we’re going to spend a billion dollars of our money over there, you are sadly mistaken.”
On the eve of the invasion, as it began to dawn on a few officials that the price for rebuilding Iraq would be vastly greater than they had been told, the degree of miscalculation was illustrated in an encounter between Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, and Jay Garner, a retired lieutenant general who had hastily been named the chief of what would be a short-lived civilian authority called the Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance.
The history records how Mr. Garner presented Mr. Rumsfeld with several rebuilding plans, including one that would include projects across Iraq.
“What do you think that’ll cost?” Mr. Rumsfeld asked of the more expansive plan.
“I think it’s going to cost billions of dollars,” Mr. Garner said.
“My friend,” Mr. Rumsfeld replied, “if you think we’re going to spend a billion dollars of our money over there, you are sadly mistaken.”
The Daily SHOCKER
Cheney acknowledged that he had disagreed with Bush's decision to remove embattled Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld in late 2006, saying that "the president doesn't always take my advice."
"I was a Rumsfeld man," Cheney said. "I'd helped recruit him, and I thought he did a good job for us."
"Go phokk yourself," he added, beating a slithery retreat to his underground lair before risking exposure to the purifying rays of the sun.
"I was a Rumsfeld man," Cheney said. "I'd helped recruit him, and I thought he did a good job for us."
"Go phokk yourself," he added, beating a slithery retreat to his underground lair before risking exposure to the purifying rays of the sun.
Thursday, June 19, 2008
Winning Hearts and Minds! (WHAM!) (cont'd!), or, it's just that perception thingy again
Exams Back Up Reports of Detainee Abuse, Group Says
The first extensive medical examinations of former detainees in U.S. military jails offer corroboration for prisoners' claims of physical and psychological abuse at the hands of their American captors, a Boston-based human rights group said in a report released yesterday.
The assessments of 11 men formerly held in U.S. detention camps overseas revealed scars and other injuries consistent with their accounts of beatings, electric shocks, shackling and, in at least one case, sodomy, according to the report by Physicians for Human Rights. Most also had symptoms of long-term psychological damage, including post-traumatic stress disorder, the group said.
The evaluations backed up the men's stories of physical and sexual assault and documented psychological damage that had left many of them severely impaired, the report said. For example, exams and X-rays of one of the former detainees showed scars and joint injuries that supported his description of being suspended for hours by his arms at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
All 11 men were eventually released from custody without being charged with crimes.
In a statement accompanying the report, retired Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba, who led the Army's first official investigation on Abu Ghraib, said the new evidence suggested a "systematic regime of torture" inside U.S.-run detention camps.
CIA Played Larger Role In Advising Pentagon
Torture "is basically subject to perception," CIA counterterrorism lawyer Jonathan Fredman told a group of military and intelligence officials gathered at the U.S.-run detention camp in Cuba on Oct. 2, 2002, according to minutes of the meeting. "If the detainee dies, you're doing it wrong." (Ha! Good one! He's here all week! -- Ed.)
General who probed Abu Ghraib says Bush officials committed war crimes
WASHINGTON — The Army general who led the investigation into prisoner abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison accused the Bush administration Wednesday of committing "war crimes" and called for those responsible to be held to account.
The doctors and experts determined that the men had been subject to cruelties that ranged from isolation, sleep deprivation and hooding to electric shocks, beating and, in one case, being forced to drink urine.
Bush has said repeatedly that the United States doesn't condone torture.
The first extensive medical examinations of former detainees in U.S. military jails offer corroboration for prisoners' claims of physical and psychological abuse at the hands of their American captors, a Boston-based human rights group said in a report released yesterday.
The assessments of 11 men formerly held in U.S. detention camps overseas revealed scars and other injuries consistent with their accounts of beatings, electric shocks, shackling and, in at least one case, sodomy, according to the report by Physicians for Human Rights. Most also had symptoms of long-term psychological damage, including post-traumatic stress disorder, the group said.
The evaluations backed up the men's stories of physical and sexual assault and documented psychological damage that had left many of them severely impaired, the report said. For example, exams and X-rays of one of the former detainees showed scars and joint injuries that supported his description of being suspended for hours by his arms at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
All 11 men were eventually released from custody without being charged with crimes.
In a statement accompanying the report, retired Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba, who led the Army's first official investigation on Abu Ghraib, said the new evidence suggested a "systematic regime of torture" inside U.S.-run detention camps.
CIA Played Larger Role In Advising Pentagon
Torture "is basically subject to perception," CIA counterterrorism lawyer Jonathan Fredman told a group of military and intelligence officials gathered at the U.S.-run detention camp in Cuba on Oct. 2, 2002, according to minutes of the meeting. "If the detainee dies, you're doing it wrong." (Ha! Good one! He's here all week! -- Ed.)
General who probed Abu Ghraib says Bush officials committed war crimes
WASHINGTON — The Army general who led the investigation into prisoner abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison accused the Bush administration Wednesday of committing "war crimes" and called for those responsible to be held to account.
The doctors and experts determined that the men had been subject to cruelties that ranged from isolation, sleep deprivation and hooding to electric shocks, beating and, in one case, being forced to drink urine.
Bush has said repeatedly that the United States doesn't condone torture.
Tuesday, May 13, 2008
Rummy: the "correction" for people voting the wrong way is another tairrist attack
DELONG: Politically, what are the challenges because you're not going to have a lot of sympathetic ears up there.
RUMSFELD: That's what I was just going to say. This President's pretty much a victim of success. We haven't had an attack in five years. The perception of the threat is so low in this society that it's not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment. The same thing's in Europe, there's a low threat perception. The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack. And when that happens, then everyone gets energized for another [inaudible] and it's a shame we don't have the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the threats...the lethality, the carnage, that can be imposed on our society is so real and so present and so serious that you'd think we'd be able to understand it, but as a society, the longer you get away from 9/11, the less...the less...
RUMSFELD: That's what I was just going to say. This President's pretty much a victim of success. We haven't had an attack in five years. The perception of the threat is so low in this society that it's not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment. The same thing's in Europe, there's a low threat perception. The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack. And when that happens, then everyone gets energized for another [inaudible] and it's a shame we don't have the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the threats...the lethality, the carnage, that can be imposed on our society is so real and so present and so serious that you'd think we'd be able to understand it, but as a society, the longer you get away from 9/11, the less...the less...
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
k-mad not just getting over it
In 1971, when the Times printed excerpts of the Pentagon Papers on its front page, it precipitated a constitutional showdown with the Nixon Administration over the deception and lies that sold the war in Vietnam. The Pentagon Papers issue dominated the news media back then. Today, however, Barstow's stunning report is being ignored by the most important news media in America -- TV news -- the source where most Americans, unfortunately, get most of their information...
Joseph Goebbels, eat your heart out. Goebbels is history's most notorious war propagandist, but even he could not have invented a smoother PR vehicle for selling and maintaining media and public support for a war: embed trusted "independent" military experts into the TV newsroom...
Joseph Goebbels, eat your heart out. Goebbels is history's most notorious war propagandist, but even he could not have invented a smoother PR vehicle for selling and maintaining media and public support for a war: embed trusted "independent" military experts into the TV newsroom...
Wednesday, December 5, 2007
the closest thing to poetry we have
If you're chasing the chicken
Around the chicken yard
And you don't have him yet,
And the question is, how close are you?
The answer is, it's tough to characterize
Because there's lots of zigs and zags.
-- Donald Rumsfeld
Thursday, November 29, 2007
Looking for stocking stuffers?
Rumsfeld doll a holiday gift that keeps on talking
By Al Kamen The Washington Post
WASHINGTON — It's holiday shopping time, and you're once again scurrying about looking for something besides the usual earrings, ties, shirts or sweaters. Why not capitalize on the growing "Rummy nostalgia" phenomenon? After having him for six years as a constant source of hatred, despair or admiration, face it, some of you just miss the old SecDef. Got just the thing: a 12-inch "Rummy" doll that looks vaguely like him and features bits of his historic news conferences that you can play by pressing a little button on the back of his coat. Yes, you can listen to 28 of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's greatest displays of logic:
• "What they do with themselves is up to them, and what the people around them do with them is up to the people around them."
And there are the classics:
• "There are known knowns, there are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns, that is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns, there are things we do not know we don't know, and each year we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns."
• "We have a saying in America: If you're in a hole, stop digging. ... I'm not sure I should have said that."
Some would make Yogi Berra beam with pride:
• "I would not say that the future is necessarily less predictable than the past. I think the past was not predictable when it started."
• "I believe what I said yesterday. I don't know what I said, but I know what I think, and I assume that's what I said."
Some sticklers may grouse that the comments needed to be placed in context, because the questions asked by reporters at the briefings are not included. Another criticism is that some of the truly best lines — "Freedom is untidy" and "Stuff Happens" — are not included. No matter. There's enough to give everyone hours of fond or not-so-fond memories of the man in his prime. The Rummy doll is made in China, so you might want to wear gloves when handling. There is also a warning: "Choking Hazard. Small Parts. Not for children under 3 years of age."
Footnote
The "Rummy" doll and those of other luminaries, including President Clinton, President Reagan and both Bushes, are available for $19.95 each:
TalkingPresidents.com
By Al Kamen The Washington Post
WASHINGTON — It's holiday shopping time, and you're once again scurrying about looking for something besides the usual earrings, ties, shirts or sweaters. Why not capitalize on the growing "Rummy nostalgia" phenomenon? After having him for six years as a constant source of hatred, despair or admiration, face it, some of you just miss the old SecDef. Got just the thing: a 12-inch "Rummy" doll that looks vaguely like him and features bits of his historic news conferences that you can play by pressing a little button on the back of his coat. Yes, you can listen to 28 of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's greatest displays of logic:
• "What they do with themselves is up to them, and what the people around them do with them is up to the people around them."
And there are the classics:
• "There are known knowns, there are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns, that is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns, there are things we do not know we don't know, and each year we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns."
• "We have a saying in America: If you're in a hole, stop digging. ... I'm not sure I should have said that."
Some would make Yogi Berra beam with pride:
• "I would not say that the future is necessarily less predictable than the past. I think the past was not predictable when it started."
• "I believe what I said yesterday. I don't know what I said, but I know what I think, and I assume that's what I said."
Some sticklers may grouse that the comments needed to be placed in context, because the questions asked by reporters at the briefings are not included. Another criticism is that some of the truly best lines — "Freedom is untidy" and "Stuff Happens" — are not included. No matter. There's enough to give everyone hours of fond or not-so-fond memories of the man in his prime. The Rummy doll is made in China, so you might want to wear gloves when handling. There is also a warning: "Choking Hazard. Small Parts. Not for children under 3 years of age."
FootnoteThe "Rummy" doll and those of other luminaries, including President Clinton, President Reagan and both Bushes, are available for $19.95 each:
TalkingPresidents.com
Monday, July 16, 2007
Fightin' em over there...
...And giving em maps to help em out...
GREENSBORO, N.C. (AP) - Detailed schematics of a military detainee holding facility in southern Iraq. Geographical surveys and aerial photographs of two military airfields outside Baghdad. Plans for a new fuel farm at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan.
The military calls it "need-to-know" information that would pose a direct threat to U.S. troops if it were to fall into the hands of terrorists. It's material so sensitive that officials refused to release the documents when asked.
But it's already out there, posted carelessly to file servers by government agencies and contractors, accessible to anyone with an Internet connection.
Read on here
GREENSBORO, N.C. (AP) - Detailed schematics of a military detainee holding facility in southern Iraq. Geographical surveys and aerial photographs of two military airfields outside Baghdad. Plans for a new fuel farm at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan.
The military calls it "need-to-know" information that would pose a direct threat to U.S. troops if it were to fall into the hands of terrorists. It's material so sensitive that officials refused to release the documents when asked.
But it's already out there, posted carelessly to file servers by government agencies and contractors, accessible to anyone with an Internet connection.
Read on here
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